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Friday, July 11, 2025

What was Rav Soloveitchik’s halachic position regarding electricity?

 https://613tube.com/watch/?v=TeMrYf4d7ek

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Wednesday, July 9, 2025

then ignore it

 You don't have to out argue them. If what they are saying seems wrong to you, messes you up, then ignore it. 

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Jews without mitzvos

 

What actor was a nightmare to work with?

…..Zero Mostel….

Got to the point no one wanted to work with him……producers were shunning him…..

As an actor…..no one could touch him……as a human being……no one wanted to touch him….



https://www.quora.com/What-actor-was-a-nightmare-to-work-with

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Tuesday, July 8, 2025

get your tin hat

 Don't let the aliens take your brain.





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Monday, July 7, 2025

Magic Jesus

 Journalist Chris Hedges, who himself is an ordained minister, criticizes the Christian right which he deems nationalistic and even fascistic. He says that the billionaire class funds them because they don't make economic demands. 

"With magic Jesus, you don't need labor unions. With magic Jesus, you don't need healthcare. Because magic Jesus is going to give you a Cadillac and make all your dreams come true. And that is that shift, from a reality based world, into the world of magical thinking. And once people shift into that world of magical thinking, you can't reach them through rational argument." 

He adds that these people don't like discussing the Bible because they don't know it. They know enough to buttress their theology. 

[Democracy doesn’t exist in the United States: Chris Hedges | UpFront, 22:02, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EDKRGkgLsI, Al Jazeera English]



Isn't the Haredi world a bit like this? Just study Torah. It's all you need. The Gemara is their magic Jesus. And it's like the Modern Orthodox too. Israel is their magic Jesus. 

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If middos matter

I had four yeshivish bochurim over my house for Shabbos. They were decent American kids and it went well for the most part. But over time, arguments developed, at times they got fierce, even nasty. They were not hearing each other, not learning from each other. Each was locked in a position. The goal was to defeat the other. 

One of them didn't join in the arguments. He even said to me privately that he appreciated hearing my perspective as he hadn't heard it before. What was different about him? He was from Los Angeles. They were all from the New York area, Lakewood and Monsey.

I think back on that NY rabbi who told me not to live in Los Angeles because it was tuma par excellence. He didn't tell me not to live in New York. 

We don't see our own flaws. We don't see the shortcomings of our group and our city.

At the end of Shabbos, the guy from Los Angeles apologized to me if he said anything to which I could take offense. I told him, "I can't think of anything. In fact, I was thinking this guy is so thoughtful in what he says to people. Those are the ones who apologize."

New York frummies see New York as the best place to raise children, the most religiously devoted place. I beg to differ. If middos matter then New York might be the worst place. 



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Rabbi Melamed on the Divine Spark in other religions - Alan Brill

 

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Rabbi Melamed on the Divine Spark in other religions

By Alan Brill on June 30, 2025

Continuing my discussion about Rabbi Melamed on Other Religions. I started with his statements on Hinduism and will now look at his broader premises- see “The Divine Spark among Other Religions” and here “Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook on Different Religions.” Once again, I will use the posted selective English translation because it is accessible; however, I do have the Hebrew original marked up with marginal notes and a full response.

For Rabbi Melamed, all religions have a spark of the divine, some of the light of the divine, and help the world advance toward its moral perfection. The religions of the world educate towards the moral foundations, “each religion according to its level.” Through accepting these points, Rabbi Melamed removed any stigma of other religions as needing to be negated or the need to call other religions as demonic, entirely false, or to teach a restrictive exclusivism where only Jews have religion. Rather, for most people in the world, Melamed thinks that “it is right for every person to continue in the faith of their fathers, because with the loss of faith, moral corruption increases.”

Rabbi Melamed also thinks that the religions of the world are progressing toward deeper and more abstract forms of understanding their religions, thereby removing “the dross of the crude material elements within it” allowing them to elevate their souls “to higher faith and morality.” Jews should not follow these religions; however, the religions of the world “serve as a moral and faith compass for all peoples.” Rabbi Melamed acknowledges that religious ideas are evolving and progressing to deeper understandings, the ancient and medieval forms of the religion that most people know from textbooks do not reflect current ideas in those religions. He has spoken with many people and read many books to overcome the essentializing of religions in ancient forms. I am always surprised at people who think other religions are where they were in 500 CE or even 1700 CE, but at the same time have a modern understanding of Judaism.

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"God does not place excessive demands on His creations." Lubavitcher Rebbe https://youtu.be/JZZ1ou7jkTk
Cause all of the stars are fading away. Just try not to worry you'll see them some day. Take what you need and be on your way and stop crying your heart out. Noel Gallagher

Key Advice from Rav Yaakov

According to Rav Yaakov Kamenetsky, the goal of the kiruv professional should be simply to help the baal teshuvah take on the mitzvos. He should not impose conformity or eradicate the essence of the person. Rav Yaakov said that it is important that the BT feel normal. He said that, for example, the typical BT will not feel normal if he does not complete his or her college education. Thus, he or she should not be discouraged from doing so.

Reb Moshe Feinstein Zt"l with Reb Yaakov Kamenetsky Zt"l in Camp Ohr Shraga 1969 - YouTube

If not for the Torah

It is taught in the name of Rabbi Meir: For what reason was the Torah given to the Jewish people? Because they are impudent. The school of Rabbi Yishmael taught the following with regard to the verse: “From His right hand went a fiery law for them” (Deuteronomy 33:2); The Holy One, Blessed be He, said: these are fit to be given a fiery law. Some say the ways of these people are fire, as, were it not for the fact that the Torah was given to the Jewish people, (whose study and observance restrains them) no nation or tongue could withstand them. (Beitzah 25b)

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Schools for BT men

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Seminaries for BT women

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Maintaining Your Individuality

"I was very young when I came to America and various people gave me advice how to be an effective Rabbi and teacher by following the example of this or that successful person. They meant well of course but had I followed their advice, I would not be what I am today. Of course I am nothing, but the little that I am is because I refused to change my persona. God has given each of us a unique identity, and to the extent that we are faithful to it we will be fulfilled. Why then do we see so many unsuccessful and frustrated Jews despite God’s promise that we will each be richly rewarded? It is because in developing themselves they did not remain faithful to their roots, to their true selves. My father, who was my real teacher, taught me this lesson. When I was young and we would learn Gemara together, I would repeat his words exactly, only to have him tell me “if you simply repeat what I said you will never be a lamdan – you have to explain it in your own words.” In other words, a person is true to himself when he is faithful to the Torah and tradition, and faithfully upholds their fundamental principles, albeit in ways that reflect his unique persona." Rabbi Joseph Soloveitchik. Transcribed by R' Basil Herring in TorahMusings.org http://torahmusings.com/2013/08/the-rav-on-remaining-true-to-ourselves/

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