I live around many nationalists, including right wing YU people who like fools moved to Israel. Their kids, particularly after the army, are unrecognizable. I have been to 8 shivas in my town for soldiers killed in Gaza. You look around the room and try to figure out if their siblings and friends are religious at all! You look at their clothes, what little they wear, you listen to their conversation. They don't seem religious. But the father has a kippah srugah on this head. The mother covers most of her head. The kids are so far from that. They were ruined by the army and by life in Israel in general.
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